• onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    593·
    11 months ago

    Do people think that having 4 criminal cases pending against you is meaningless? Like… This is accurate and prosecutions are moving forward. The fuck do you want? That’s how it works.

    • Roboticide@lemmy.world
      251·
      11 months ago

      I assume it’s just the pace, but overall there’s plenty of reasons to be frustrated.

      There’s already talk about how some of these cases might not be resolved until after the election, at which point, depending on how it goes, could be extremely problematic.

      It feels frustrating because it’s mid-2023, and we may “run out of time” by end of 2024. People ask what the fuck was happening for 2.5 years? The reality of course is justice is not always, nor necessarily should be swift, and getting these investigations even started takes time to say nothing of collecting evidence and putting together a case. But also, 20 years ago even a single criminal indictment probably would have spelled the end of a Presidential campaign, and instead, Trump is successfully fundraising off of these charges and leading the polls.

      It’s all just bonkers.

    • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      121·
      11 months ago

      Yep. Its a slow process.

      They are collecting evidence. Witness statements and such.

      They are NOT rushing this. It would be a shitshow.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        101·
        11 months ago

        He stole from charities and comitted a plethora of other crimes, if the DOJ was doing their job, he should never have been in a position to campaign for president in the first place.

    • BigNote@lemm.ee
      9·
      11 months ago

      There are a lot of people in this thread who became legal experts by passing the Reddit bar exam, or something of equally imaginary significance.

    • gmtom@lemmy.world
      281·
      11 months ago

      I know I would feel awful about.

      Can you imagine the absolute torrent of psychotic conspiracy theories the MAGATS would spew until the end of time?

    • normanwall@lemmy.world
      23·
      11 months ago

      If he dies of a heart attack the day before he’s convicted it would be due to the stress caused by his own terrible actions and would sum up his life perfectly because somehow he still avoids the full repercussions

      • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
        11·
        11 months ago

        Yeah obviously.

        But the day before he got convicted? 2 days after that, or hell, years ago, no complicated feelings at all.

        I would feel like he somehow died to get out of being convicted lmao

        • explodicle@local106.comEnglish
          91·
          11 months ago

          Even if he gets convicted, I wouldn’t put it past a centrist Democrat to pardon him for unity or some bullshit.

            • explodicle@local106.comEnglish
              5·
              11 months ago

              I don’t think the left would be very surprised, we’d just keep focusing on direct action. Centrist Democrats already DGAF if we’re mad.

              Liberals would call it “unacceptable” for a few months, maybe do a couple protests, and then continue to vote for the people who got him pardoned.

              Nothing would change.

              • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
                3·
                11 months ago

                Isn’t anyone disturbed by that? Without extreme action from the left and no legal pushback from the Democrats, that would mean the right could do whatever the hell it wants without consequence, including genocide.

                Why aren’t we overthrowing them?

    • ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub
      241·
      11 months ago

      Well, you can’t arrest a sitting president, and Senate was majority Republican and they tow the party line so yeah most Democrats could do was impeach and let the Republicans bail him out

      But now he’s not president, and has to face the courts as a citizen. The investigators aren’t going to rush a case like this, but you also can’t risk it going over to the election before getting a conviction. Honestly the timing on all this seems pretty on point

          • Especially_the_lies@startrek.websiteEnglish
            24·
            11 months ago

            Yes, Ulysses S. Grant was arrested for riding his horse recklessly through the streets of DC. He was arrested, fined, and released. This happened while he was president. However, since it was a minor incident in the grand scheme of things, it isn’t really a precedent to hang your hat on.

            • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
              161·
              11 months ago

              And he applauded the cop that did it, because he was right.

              Of course, Grant had one of the most corrupt administrations in US governmental history, but, ya know.

              He wasn’t that kind of asshole.

              Just appointed a bunch of relatives to positions they didn’t deserve at taxpayer expense, openly profiteered, and sold access to his position, policies, and pardons.

              Hey, wait a minute…

            • BigNote@lemm.ee
              1·
              11 months ago

              True, but the consensus among legal scholars is that it’s not a binding precedent. I don’t remember the reasoning behind it.

    • Perfide@reddthat.com
      181·
      11 months ago

      Criminal investigations take time under the best of circumstances. These are not the best of circumstances.

      • RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
        51·
        11 months ago

        It’s not the investigators who are creating the hype, it’s the media. And the media does it because the think it sells. 'Effin BBC had live coverage of this dude arriving to his last court hearing, including his plane landing, wtf?! Who watches this shit in a country which has nothing to do with that idiot?

    • kameecoding@lemmy.world
      6·
      11 months ago

      real life isn’t Suits where charges are brought and a week later you are in a court.

      also Suits had less fascism than thebUS has currently

    • Elivey@lemmy.world
      6·
      11 months ago

      Murder investigations can take years to get the person responsible on for trial even when in hindsight the evidence makes it seem obvious who did it.

      This isn’t a murder obviously but it is multiple messy messy cases with lots of moving delicate parts that as people who have never done a criminal investigation can’t even imagine. I wouldn’t want to rush into a case and end up bungling it because I didn’t take my time.

  • torafugu@artemis.camp
    251·
    11 months ago

    It will soon get to the point to where he’ll spend life in prison, if it isn’t already at that point.

  • Beardsley@lemmy.world
    22·
    11 months ago

    I am tired of Earth. These people. I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.

  • sharpiemarker@feddit.de
    142·
    11 months ago

    Look, this isn’t half-life 3 we’re talking about here. It’s going to happen, just keep your pants on.

    • cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      11 months ago

      Do you dream of one day conviction? Interlinked.

      Within cells interlinked?

      Why don’t you say that three times: Within cells interlinked.

    • BigNote@lemm.ee
      2·
      11 months ago

      It’s Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen I believe. I could be wrong though since it’s been decades since I last read it.

      • Nacktmull@lemm.ee
        1·
        11 months ago

        it’s been decades since I last read it. Yep, that´s why I -after looking at it for a second- took it for another untypical superhero comic, that I also read decades ago and that looks a little similar :)