• Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      North Korea has the world’s worst human rights, so when they made it sound like only one country had this issue, that was my guess. I’m in North America and never experienced what is described. Unless I’m wrong to have even the amount of faith required to believe there are no North Korea denialists here.

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          When I say that, I’m going by every regular source that ever existed, plus satellite images, its near-impossible standards for leaving or entering, its lack of internet access (who here has seen anyone who is actually from North Korea), and the fact that the average North Korean adult is only five feet tall, with height being an indicator of health (the taller the healthier). What do you weigh against it that inspires you to posit it’s all just propaganda and hearsay? Other hearsay (as opposed to a conflict within the narrative you oppose)?

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            I say that, I’m going by every regular source that ever existed

            “regular source” citations-needed

            its near-impossible standards for leaving or entering

            did you know these are imposed on them externally? their policy is that they love tourists. here’s a video of a couple of australian tourists enjoying themselves there. the reason americans can’t go there is because the US forbids it.

            its lack of internet access (who here has seen anyone who is actually from North Korea),

            it’s a country under brutal siege for its entire history. yes, they’re poor. whose fault is that?

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              Regular sources as in MSNBC, CNN, NPR, Wikipedia, etc. sources that are the most established, enough that they’re among the top 500 websites and that they show up on the first page of a Google search. Not to mention a random source is going to have random origins, trust in a source has to be earned and even with trusted sources you must compare and contrast them sometimes.

              The restrictions for leaving and entering have not been imposed on them externally, this attitude of Korea predates even the Roman empire so external factors wouldn’t have been possible as a cause, even though it’s undeniable there are nations that have restricted anyone from going there. Japan used to be the same way at different points in history, though for the time being they’re open to everyone.

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        11 months ago

        According to who?

        Could it be, the United States? The most vicious and bloody empire the world has ever known?

        That aside (like, wow, holy fuck)

        If you could not recognize the earlier comments as an indication of western capitalism, you are rich or otherwise so privileged you cannot comprehend the struggles of the average person

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          11 months ago

          Or maybe you’re overreacting a little. I don’t deny struggles such as those by the average person, but being unable to take care of one’s health is not one of them. That’s also why I answered “North Korea” to someone’s assertion that there’s a place where this is an issue. America allows people to take time away to recuperate, even for mental health, and has this thing called SSI for the chronically unhealthy.

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          11 months ago

          The federation aspect of Lemmy is acting up again, the image won’t show up for me except as a transparent block (I assume it’s supposed to show something).

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            11 months ago

            dang, unfortunate. it was an emote, a picture of famous North Korea liar/grifter Yeonmi Park, inventor of many truths such as: “North Koreans don’t have a word for depression”, “the word for friend is banned in North Korea”, and (my favorite) “the trains in North Korea don’t work so people have to push the trains wherever they go”.