If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still potentially take more than a decade for the start-up to secure commercial use approval

If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still potentially take more than a decade for the start-up to secure commercial use approval

  • ArugulaZ@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    He wants to use this technology to “cure autism,” which sounds like it’s coming from a position of self-loathing, projected onto everybody else. If he wants to stick chips into his brain, fine, but personally, I don’t need a cure for the disease of being me.

    • Yewb@kbin.social
      3·
      1 year ago

      Dude cant even get the software on teslas to work right and we are going to trust him with brain implants? Lol

          • hoilst@kbin.social
            2·
            1 year ago

            I just love the assumption that we have to have brain implants (why? Because L. Ron Musk said so?)

            • GreatBigJerk@kbin.social
              2·
              1 year ago

              I think it’s the sci-fi fantasy of it. Like being able to download knowledge like the matrix.

              In reality the real use of these is to help people with brain injuries or disabilities.

              Elno wants to grift people on the former. Literally everything he does is selling people the knock off wish version of something from a sci-fi movie/book/game.

        • hoilst@kbin.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          They were going to ask for volunteers from Musk’s legions of loyal fans, but then they realised the subjects needed to have brains.

          • Maeve@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            Just finished my first cuppa and had a nice and literal lol. Thanks for starting my day right!

    • Astigma@feddit.uk
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah same here, I’m much more curious about Valve’s foray into BCIs. GabeN mentioned in an interview a few years ago that they’re closer than we think and I want to know what he’s cooking up.

  • CynAq@kbin.social
    1·
    1 year ago

    I want a brain chip in theory.

    I don’t want any current human to have anything to do with it. The average human’s comprehension of life, consciousness, what it is to be human etc are so far behind ideal, I wouldn’t trust anyone currently alive to start testing a direct brain-computer interface.

    In several hundred years when we have Trek style space communism, sure!

      • Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        So… Star Trek…

        The only thing the Federation really did was convince people to work for free. They still had wars- lots of them, in fact- still had a military (one which trained kids in the field thought it was a good idea to have kids on battleships “exploration” ships)

      • Astigma@feddit.uk
        0·
        1 year ago

        The Ferengi’s 34th rule of acquisition is: War is good for business. They themselves never waged war though, curiously.

        • Singletona@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          35th rule of acquisition: Peace is good for Business.

          Or maybe it’s the other way around I always get those two mixed up.

        • Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social
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          1 year ago

          Depends on how you defined war.

          The ferengi ship where Picard makes first second or third contact above the power draining planet was an equal to the enterprise.

          “Oh but the federation doesn’t build warships”… the enterprise is more than a match for romulan and Klingon battle ships.

          • Astigma@feddit.ukEnglish
            0·
            1 year ago

            The Ferengi have a military sure but its primary use is to protect their enterprises, not to wage war on other factions. Also who are you talking to that claimed the federation doesn’t build warships? It certainly wasn’t me.

            • Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social
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              1 year ago

              The federation itself.

              The defiant was a big deal because it was a warship, and the Feds “don’t do that”. Even though most their ships are in fact heavily armed and capable of at least holding their own against “dedicated” warships of (frequently very) hostile civilizations

              • Astigma@feddit.ukEnglish
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                1 year ago

                I see where you’re coming from. The Defiant-Class are definitely a purposefully designed “Warship” and the first Starfleet has made in a long time at that point. Yeah I concede the point. I look at a ship like the Galaxy-Class with its phaser arrays etc and I think warship but it was built and designed during a time of peace, Starfleet wouldn’t have viewed it as a warship.

                • Singletona@kbin.social
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  It’s an exploration ship… that’s almost big enough to qualify as a mobile starbase given the civilian population. Having armaments isn’t stupid, especially given how often they rejiggered the phasers to act as a tool rather than a weapon.

  • notfromhere@lemmy.one
    1·
    1 year ago

    What a fucking echo chamber this place is. Rename the community to /c/FuckMusk and get it over with

    • Singletona@kbin.social
      4·
      1 year ago

      Well the best way to not have us talk about Musk like he’s a moron is for Musk to stop acting like a moron.

    • kool_newt@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      In capitalism, there is no doubt this will be used to compel labor. Imagine if your boss or some authority could inflict severe pain that causes no physical damage until you comply? Hello neo-slavery!

      • TZUI1hRq@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        In socialism, there is no doubt this will be used to compel labor. Imagine if your commissar or some authority could inflict severe pain that causes no physical damage until you comply? Hello neo-slavery!

      • YolkBrushWork402@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        Sounds dystopian, this sounds like an episode straight out of Black mirror why the hell would anybody want to support this?(or is there nobody aside from elon supporting it?)

        • Kari@kbin.social
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          1 year ago

          This sounds like something that everyone else is going to not comment on until they see how it turns out. Not to mention that it is way too early to even test on humans cause the monkey trails ended badly. Though I’m sure the Musk fanboys will line up as fast as possible.

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Where are all those people who were worried vaccines had chips in them? Now this guy is literally saying he’s going to chip you and nothing lol

      • skogens_ro@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        I don’t believe in the vaccine-chip nonsense, but I think there’s consistency there: it’s about informed consent. There’s a huge difference between being told by the government to take a vaccine that secretly has a chip in it, and Elon Musk offering chips for sale. If you choose to buy Musk’s chip, you’re doing so voluntarily and you know that you are getting a chip.

        Plus, how many of the tinfoil hats are cheering on Neuralink?

        • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          1 year ago

          The difference is that the vaccine physically can’t have a chip. It’s impossible for that level of technology to be injected into muscle through a needle.

  • FiskFisk33@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I’mma call it right here, shot will go south, quickly, people will end up in prison, and Musk will somehow not be one of them.

    i give it max a year or two after the first implant before we read about trials starting in the headlines.

  • tomve_cz@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    He said a lot of things … He’s like Trump - full mouth of words but reality is always another thing

  • gus@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Honestly I won’t get one but I’m fine for Elon to break into it. I kinda feel like that’s the only thing he does well. Funnels money into concepts people believe are impossible. Fail until there’s some small success and let other, more competent people learn from those failures. I think I’d rather have that than stay stagnant and/or have the Russian brain chip become the standard

    • exohuman@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Good point. Let’s see what comes of this. Like I have said, I would welcome a chip if it solves my brain’s issues (instead of side effect laden medication) and it’s likely that the chip I want would be from one of those folks that learn from failure.

      • Singletona@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        The important thing is people can’t just casually reprogram the damned thing.

        having an ability to diagnose and correct without cracking your head open is fine, but it has to be a way that’s 'you’re giving positive affirmation that you’re OK with it or a medical professional is physically having to plug a thing in or on or … just so it can’t be ‘oh hey yo ustepped through these induction plates. we turned your anti-siezure chip off due to your non-compliance.’

  • Untitled9999@kbin.social
    0·
    1 year ago

    This is completely dystopian.

    As others have said, Elon should test this on himself before he tests it on others, if he’s really so confident in it.

    It is inevitable that this will have negative health effects, and when that happens, Elon will just wipe his hands and say “not my problem”.

  • Singletona@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Given a descendant of this technology has the potential for seizure moderation, which is something my sister basically will need as the medication she uses will inevitably require doses that would destroy her liver or leave her all but vegetative. It’s super interesting from a technical aspect and hyper-relevant.

    However, given Musk’s antics especially as of late? I wouldn’t trust him to not accidentally intentionally kill people, or use it as a way to have an unremovable keylogger with the end goal of ‘Oh those are some nice eyes you’ve got there,’ or ‘lovely able to live without going into convulsions isn’t it? It’d be a shame if that changed.’