For a long time Firefox Desktop development has supported both Mercurial and Git users. This dual SCM requirement places a significant burden on teams which are already stretched thin in parts. We have made the decision to move Firefox development to Git.

  • We will continue to use Bugzilla, moz-phab, Phabricator, and Lando
  • Although we’ll be hosting the repository on GitHub, our contribution workflow will remain unchanged and we will not be accepting Pull Requests at this time
  • We’re still working through the planning stages, but we’re expecting at least six months before the migration begins

APPROACH

In order to deliver gains into the hands of our engineers as early as possible, the work will be split into two components: developer-facing first, followed by piecemeal migration of backend infrastructure.

Phase One - Developer Facing

We’ll switch the primary repository from Mercurial to Git, at the same time removing support for Mercurial on developers’ workstations. At this point you’ll need to use Git locally, and will continue to use moz-phab to submit patches for review.

All changes will land on the Git repository, which will be unidirectionally synchronised into our existing Mercurial infrastructure.

Phase Two - Infrastructure

Respective teams will work on migrating infrastructure that sits atop Mercurial to Git. This will happen in an incremental manner rather than all at once.

By the end of this phase we will have completely removed support of Mercurial from our infrastructure.

    • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
      279·
      8 months ago

      I agree that PRs are problematic, but that doesn’t make GitHub “trash”.

      Also, that dude is so obnoxious and really seems to like to make broad generalizations of his opinion like it’s fact.

      • Scorpion3869@lemmy.ml
        81·
        8 months ago

        and really seems to like to make broad generalizations of his opinion like it’s fact.

        None of what Brodie said is baseless, even if some are more opinion than fact. He sight’s sources for a reason.

        • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
          62·
          8 months ago

          He sight’s sources for a reason.

          I’d hope so. It wouldn’t be good if they were blind.

          Anyway, I didn’t question the accuracy of what he said, just that his manner of delivery is obnoxious and portrays an attitude of self-importance. It feels like he’s yelling at the viewer with hostility.

          • Scorpion3869@lemmy.ml
            51·
            8 months ago

            He’s literally talking to the viewer the same way the vast majority of YouTubers speak, he’s just Australian.

            • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
              22·
              8 months ago

              the same way the vast majority of YouTubers speak

              “Everyone else is doing it” is not a free pass. Absolutely none of the creators I watch speak like that, and I can list quite a lot. It’s obnoxious.

                • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  13·
                  8 months ago

                  Why do either of those matter towards being obnoxious?

                  Are all Australians obligated to be like that? Two years ago people were supposed to make videos acting obnoxious?

          • Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space
            4·
            8 months ago

            Aussies tend to be quite direct. It’s basically our natural state. I get how it can be perceived as hostile, but I don’t actually think Brodie is very abrasive. He seems like a pretty relaxed guy.

        • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
          10·
          8 months ago

          Instead of using valid commit messages they just slap on “#42” which isn’t valid anywhere other than the GitHub web UI.

        • IAm_A_Complete_Idiot@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          8 months ago

          Also, GitHub PRs atleast to me feel like they encourage reviewing changes by the total diff of the entire PR, and not each commit. I don’t want a slog of commits that don’t add any value - it just makes doing things like reverts more annoying. Stuff like Gerrit and phabricator enforce reviews by making you review individual commits / changes / whatever you want to call them and not branch diffs.

    • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      114·
      8 months ago

      … which is part of why they aren’t using GitHubs pull request feature to land changes?

            • Kogasa@programming.dev
              75·
              8 months ago

              I’m only a native English speaker, so guess I could be interpreting it wrong.

              You should try being a native English reader.

              What it means is “they will not be accepting pull requests at this time.” Whether or not they are open to changing this in the future is not specified. They have not specifically stated that this is off the table, nor have they stated this is their intent.

        • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          17·
          8 months ago

          And I’m sure you’ve got a long history of submitting patches to Firefox given your strong opinions on the process Mozilla uses to manage this?

          • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
            72·
            8 months ago

            Nobody here needs “a long history of submitting patches to Firefox” to have an opinion on the tools used to manage the project. I assume that most here sharing their opinion don’t and yet you need not scroll far. You merely need some knowledge and experience with the tools, be it in personal, corporate, FOSS, etc. projects. Besides I don’t spend my free time helping FOSS projects just to use it to be like “my opinion better” that’s literally just the “appeal to authority fallacy”. But if you must know, I have helped here and there throughout the years under various different aliases/accounts. (Why “various aliases”? because I enjoy helping not some meaningless credit, it’s just how I am.)

            • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              26·
              8 months ago

              So what you are saying is that as someone who has never worked on the Firefox codebase, you still somehow know more about managing contributions to one of the largest FOSS projects in the world that has been running pretty successfully for the last 25 years?

              Idk, maybe try a bit of humility - like if it looks like they are making a weird decision, maybe it’s not because they are dumb and you are very smart, maybe it’s because they know stuff that you don’t?

              • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
                61·
                8 months ago

                First off, not what I said.
                Second off, I never called them dumb. I actually happen to have a good relationship with them, so I take offense to what you’re implying. I mearly stated that I don’t like GitHub and gave some legitimate reasons. Which btw : 1000000723 1000000724 1000000728 Maybe the one who should learn humility is you.