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    In hundreds of years, 💾 will probably still be some kind of square or rectangle

    The good thing about Unicode emojis, is that systems can render different images depending on the font. Right now, it’s already starting to make sense to replace that by the image of either a pendrive or some sort of SD card, with a meaning of “removable device to store relatively small amounts of user data”.

    What’s likely to age much worse, are 💽💿📀.

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        Not confusion, evolution. If people keep using the floppy disk icon to mean “portable small amount of data”, the definition and icon for the same code point can easily get updated to reflect the generalized meaning and new media.

        Arguably, the specification should not be for a “floppy disk” or “minidisk” or “DVD” or specific kind of storage media in the first place, they should’ve been for “portable storage media” and let everyone draw what’s more fit for their demographic.

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            Google’s hairy heart, because nobody read the spec and the artist just copied what they saw in the picture

            That isn’t what happened, and rather more of an example of what I was talking about.

            “Yellow heart” is a medical condition that makes the heart look “hairy”, “hairy heart” is referenced throughout history as associated with bravery and is still a saying in Portuguese; at the same time, “green heart” was represented as a sort of “sweaty” (envious) heart; “blue heart” was… a weird thing, but at least they made it blue color.

            Instead of “[color] heart”, someone designed them as “idiomatic meaning of [color heart]”, interpreting the Unicode descriptions as idiomatic expressions.

            This is the same process that could morph a “floppy disk” into a “small capacity portable data storage device” that could get depicted in any number of ways.

            Unicode isn’t designed to contain abstract concepts.

            I’d argue that all the emotion faces are “abstract concepts” 🌞😎🌝🕶️😇

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                Uremic pericarditis, which causes fibrinous pericarditis, presents as a yellow heart with hair-like stuff. The sources are pathology books (check Google Books) and autopsy photos (some are on Google Images, kind of NSFW). It used to be associated with “heroic death”. Then “Coração Peludo” got several meanings, so I can imagine someone familiar with those and looking for references of “yellow heart”, might’ve found examples of “hairy heart” and drawn just that.

                I’m guessing they tasked a single person with adding the emojis (how hard is it to draw some simple colored shapes, right?), and didn’t have anyone review them. They probably were also told not to look at examples from competitors, in case they copied them too closely and got sued for copyright infringement.

                As for Unicode… it’s a shame person figures can be made of “group type {shape [+ skin tone] [+ gender] [+ hair color]}*n”, but they didn’t use general color modifiers for the basic shapes. 🐈‍⬛

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        I always get a little bit annoyed with emoji because they had the opportunity to become an interesting pictographic language. But because of various insistences on them representing things rather than concepts we’ve sort of got stuck and the floppy disk have to be floppy disk is an example of that.

        What I mean is things that are difficult to convey in language. Like how we’ve had to resort to /s and italics and bold to convey emphasis. All the open box symbol that is used to indicate a space rather than just having a gap.

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            Chinese is of course not a pictographic language it’s an alphabet like western alphabets.

            We kind of have pictograms in Unicode already like ☢️ or ⚠️ or ⚡ which are universal even though they don’t really represent physical objects.

            The radiation icon particular doesn’t really make any kind of logical sense, radiation is in non-visual threat so there’s no reason it should look like that, over anything else, and yet everyone knows that’s what the symbol means. It’s not a picture of something, it’s the picture of a concept.

            Equally there’s no real reason that warning should be a triangle and electricity definitely doesn’t look like that. Again though we kind of don’t even think about it we just know what the symbols mean. With Chinese you actually have to learn the language like you have to learn english or you have to learn Italian.