Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.

“We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.

Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’ — though like Canonical’s Steam snap the Steam Flatpak is also unofficial, and no directly supported by Valve.

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      Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old

      Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea

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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.

          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only just moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.

          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.

          Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.

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            I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.

            That being said, I have a few flatpaks running, but that’s mostly because they’re apps that aren’t packaged for Debian.

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              Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.

              I’m just saying it’s completely valid to not be into Debian because the packages are ancient, just as it’s also completely valid to not be into Arch because the packages are too bleeding edge.

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              I didn’t ignore anything.

              And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.

              My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.

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                  I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.

                  I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.

                  That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.

                  You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.