I recently set up Sonarr and Radarr on my home server and I’m loving it.
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.
To me it seems like it would be much better to have a tool like Lidarr or have support in Jellyseerr to download music from common streaming services.
What are your views on this?
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YouTube and Spotify don’t have flac or alac filetypes.
Similar here, but I don’t do google and I hate Spotify lawl. I do download for my collection, but I’ve also subscribed to Apple Music because I don’t wanna fuck around with putting music on my phone, I mostly use my phone for podcasts.
But I just for some headphones that use spatial sound and holy shit is that fantastic. I have like five nice pairs of open-back fancy headphones and now I’m using my probudz all the time because it makes your music sound 4.5D and you can look around if you want and it sounds like you’re at a concert
FLAC files - better sound quality
I’ve also had issues with Lidarr not downloading anything - For example, I tried downloading music from the artist
NF- which I don’t think is a particularly niche artist - but Lidarr didn’t download anything. What indexers do you use to download music?Personally I don’t download music. I rip my CDs but I do know that some streaming services don’t offer as high quality as CDs hence my comment.
I think you basically need a private tracker for lidarr. The arr suite is mostly targeted toward collecting media of a particular quality and will sit on its hands if what it finds doesn’t meet that standard
Music is also not well represented in the public indexers, so it’s not surprising it doesn’t always find what you’re looking for
- quality
- organization of files
- proper metadata
- extras like photos/other images, lyrics, links, etc
- community (on various torrent sites, mainly)
- not being reliant on a company and centralized servers
- someone paid for the album… band made more from that one sale than how many streams of it? Lol 😐
- commands are crowding my CLI history. Lol
It depends what it is and maybe I’m not savvy enough but, I find it easier to use bittorrent still.
Some things are easier to find on YT or X streaming service so, I’d say multiple methods these days are necessary depending on what one is into.
To that end, I think we need to just reach out to bands and point them to a primer on uploading their music. Additionally, more people need to go to shows and start creating high quality torrents of smaller, more independant bands. As well as people creating torrents or torrent packs for the stuff that gets ripped from the other sources.
You sort of asked two different questions there. Generally I don’t torrent music these days, though I have done in the past (Audio-4U, for example). I do use P2P methods like Soulseek for some stuff but predominately I rely on direct downloads through DoujinStyle.
In terms of why I pirate, it’s because I can’t afford to buy all my music and streaming services offer inferior quality, catalogue size and revenue to the artists. I’d rather manually curate my own offline collection and put the money I would spend on a streaming subscription directly towards an artist whose work I particularly liked whenever I can afford to do so.
Basically boils down to quality. The default options for pirated music are FLAC 44.1-96 kHz 16-24 bit, or MP3 320kbps.
Both are better than YouTube quality.
Yep, don’t need to get a headache from crappy 128bps mp3s.
Also because fuck this rent-music mentality.
Eh - YT music (premium) offers 256kB-ish Opus now. That’s on par with 320kBps MP3.
I dowload my flacs via soulseekqt. sadly torrent is not cool for music anymore…
Because fuck Lars Ulrich.
Hell, I wish my downloads took money directly from him. He sucks.
What’s the issue with him? Honest question, just want to know what’s up
Metallica spearheaded the movement against the music sharing platform Napster back in the day. Lars Ulrich in general was a big opponent of music piracy. (Although, apparently he has since chilled out a bit).
He’s also just not a good drummer.
I guess he’s not that bad, all things considered. Just don’t like the guy.
Thank you for explaining! I had no idea.
Game or anime songs are often not available in their full versions on YouTube or Spotify. Also better sound quality.
Because some music is not available on streaming platforms. Occasionally artists and labels decide to split their ways, and suddenly their older albums are gone. Over the years I started losing notable chunks of music I like from my playlists.
Not only that but the original mixes of albums often don’t get put on streaming platforms because of licensing bullshit or whatever.
And especially for rock and metal the newer remasters of popular albums tend to be pretty bad and overly compressed or have weird post EQ added.
$10 a month for the rest of my life seems expensive.
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if the music is older, and not from the US, it’s often not on spotify. Versions matter too - even for some mainstream bands their B sides/acoustic/live versions just aren’t on spotify or youtube. Album metadata for spotify is garbage too - it just isn’t an adequate replacement for a record collection.
I do use a spotify subscription, but for me it’s a tool for playlist generation and music discovery.
Also audio quality, as others have mentioned.
I guess lidar also sorts music for you, like radarr and sonarr does with Movirs/Series.
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like
spotdlandyt-dlpto download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.I make use of deezeloader, deemix and/or streamrip, which is what I use because unlock Spotify deezet, qobuz and tidal (supported by streamrjp) have true lossless flac audio available.
Lidar can be extended to work with them instead of torrents.
Pretty much only pirate when something isn’t on QoBuz.
