Ah, fair enough, thank you.

I personally dont think we’re close to fox total domestication however. It seems like we’ve selective breed a human friendly temperament but there’s more to it than that for the sake of pet-ness that I’m sure people like to have. That is the main point in my OP. They love to mark, burrow into furniture and cause other problems. Those issues I think will be harder to alter than temperament. Probably not in my lifetime or most of ours in my opinion.

Can you send me a link to where you heard that?

I’ve heard but I dont think that’s really considered domestication yet, only partly.

We’ve adjusted their temperament, but there is more to it than that.

Sorry, meant pack hierarchy.

Fox’s aren’t going to be domesticated.

Foxes dont follow a hierarchical system like dogs, cats or horses where there is an Alpha (the owner of the animal) whom they fall under in the pecking order.

Foxes like to shit and piss all over everything and burrow Into couches. Good luck with the fox thing.

Or maybe avoiding litigation? Weird that you think of advertising first, it’s like you don’t have critical thought.

Exactly lmao

So if someone buys them, are they pirating? Lol

The powerplay is a game changer. You made a great choice getting that thing.

Maybe not considering that possibility IS what he want to do.

Lol good point though.

That’s kind of the point though

I didn’t say she was ugly, just old looking. She is not my type either way, she looks like a concerned grandma without the gray hair.

She’s like… 30(?) going on 80 years old. 😂

do ovens Not RUN on GAS wheRE you Live??? THAT’S WILD.

See, I can be a snarky dipshit too.

If your suggesting a fucking $10 timer on your electric oven plug, that’s laughable. No wonder you said “overnight” instead of an actual time, it must take you the full 8 hrs to cook a potato with that thing.

No shit I’ve heard of a timer.

You’re the one that said “overnight” in your explanation instead of an actual time to use. I meant no issues with my comment to you so I dont understand your issue.

All Night? I’d be worried that’d be too long to try this myself.

My favorite example that I think you could consider is the United States program to assist citizens with ESRD, in some cases I think the entire cost is covered. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_Stage_Renal_Disease_Program

This is from 2011… people are considering more recent events.

So that many people pirate? I think LW will be okay, don’t kid yourself

It’s like yall do CrossFit. Any chance you get you have to tell everyone.