I get that, if things are not changed on the Apple side, websites can’t have proper notification so you are forced to have an app but on android PWA (Progressive Web Apps - basically websites on steroids) are a real thing and you can just “install” the lemmy website of your instance and avoid any bloated app. Are you looking for an app with some feature missing from the website? Are you just unaware of the possibility of installing the website itself? I don’t want to sound rude (English isn’t my first language) but I don’t get what to me looks like an obsession to have a bloated app installed on your phone

  • Dreadino@feddit.it
    6·
    1 year ago

    I’m an Android developer, I usually spot a non native app immediately and the flaws in the ui are really annoying. Web apps are even worse.

    • Edo78@feddit.itOP
      0·
      1 year ago

      I’m a backend developer so I may be wrong but if the problems are in the UI can’t a different frontend solve the issue? I’m unable to spot the difference between sarif and sens sarif fonts so I really don’t have any reason to install an app if the website offer a usable UI

      • Dreadino@feddit.it
        1·
        1 year ago

        The problem is that a webapp will not offer a ui native to a OS. Android, iOS, web, macOS, Windows, all have different ideas about everything that’s concerning the UI and UX, from the way to go back, to the position of buttons, to the durations of animations, to the bounciness of things on the screen. Either the web developer creates 5 different ui/ux version of the same app and preys that the browser supports everything he needs, or the webapp will feel native at best on 1 OS.

        Applications also have access to APIs that a webapp can’t use, like widgets, shortcuts in various parts of the OS, deeper access to bt, contacts, cameras and a slew of other things. Even a “simple” usecase as Reddit/Lemmy could use deeper APIs than what a webapp can do.

        That said, I’m at about 60 delivered apps, at least 20 of them should have been websites.

  • shortwavesurfer@monero.town
    3·
    1 year ago

    PWAs work for sure, but you can really tell its just a full screen mobile website in a vast majority of cases. I am in no way saying PWAs are bad, but with apps that hook into APIs you have much wider latitude for how the data is presented and design choices

  • eeltech@lemm.ee
    1·
    1 year ago

    To me, properly optimized native apps tend to be less-bloated than their web equivalents. Have you ever used “RIF is fun” for reddit? It is amazing, lots of tiny UI optimizations make it a pleasure to consume content much faster than scrolling up and down reddit’s UI for both links and comments

  • sideone@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 year ago

    Are you just unaware of the possibility of installing the website itself?

    I haven’t heard about this, and I suspect that plenty of people are in the same situation. How do you install a website?

    • Edo78@feddit.itOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      is it some kind of proxy that translate from a format to another to help moving the reddit apps to talk with lemmy? My question remain … why an app instead of a website?

      • Communist@beehaw.org
        2·
        1 year ago

        Because sync for reddit is absolutely better than the lemmy website in just about every feasible way.

        • Edo78@feddit.itOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          never find an app I liked for reddit … my question still remain shouldn’t be faster to write a web frontend similar to an app instead of writing a proxy just to keep using an app that waste way more space on the device?

          • Communist@beehaw.org
            1·
            1 year ago

            The proxy is hosted on the lemmy instance, it allows the reddit apps to interface with lemmy, it won’t take up more space on the device than the app itself.

            One of the last things i’m worried about on my phone is the amount of space I have, i’d rather have a fluid, native interface.