• Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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      Only one of the two have constantly invaded other countries

      The People of Tibet might disagree there. But this is a discussion for another Time.

      I’m not pro US either, tho. I just call out evil when I see it. And that’s my Problem with Lemygrad. They seem to believe there are only two sides. I can say America does bad things and China, Russia etc. does bad things. They pick one side and argue and justify away the crimes “their” Side has done. And that’s not how we come forward. Evil is Evil is Evil. No matter who does it.

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          You don’t get it. I don’t compare. It is not that is worse than that. China attacked Tibet and conquered their Land. I don’t need to compare this to the US. I don’t care if Country XYZ says it was good. Evil is Evil is Evil. Pull yourself away from comparing. You don’t have to weigh Evil against each other.

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          They pick one side and argue and justify away the crimes “their” Side has done.

          You are doing exactly that. You try to argue and justify the annexation of Tibet. You could easily say “Yeah, that was not okay. China invaded and occupied Tibet, this is not okay.” But instead you are trying to compare this to the US and bring up other Countries and what they think. THIS is exactly what I meant.

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              Again you feel the need to bring up the US. This is all you got, isn’t it? “Hey, Hey, don’t call out my Camp, look at the US. They are bad!”.

              You honestly believe everyone lies? Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, International Campaign for Tibet, Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy, the UN. All lie? But China tells the truth. You are so far gone it’s unbelievable. You question well documented facts, but you won’t believe that a regime that is notorious for lying won’t lie? You are waaaay too far gone that I, a random Person from the Internet, could ever convince you. I’m just going to block you, you are not worth arguing with any further. You have nothing of value to say I couldn’t read in a Chinese propaganda pamphlet.

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              Tibet had a popular revolutionary party whose views were in line with the rest of China that wanted China’s help overthrowing the Dalai Lama, under whom slavery and serfdom was common in the region.

              Yes Tibet was a theocratic slave state. But China still invaded and annexed them.

              Was the US invasion of Iraq justified because Saddam was a dictator? If we annexed Iraq and didn’t make them speak English it would be fine?

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                Forget it. He is too far gone. We are just Strangers on the Internet, and he lives inside a paranoid nightmare. I tried my best but got nowhere.

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                  I can see his side because Tibet was a Theocratic slave state. But he pretends China didn’t invade.

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                  He’s clearly a tankie. I wonder if lemmy.zip is just as bad as lemmygrad or lemmy.ml.
                  I know why I went to kbin though. I just have no desire to directly support those developers.

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                  popular Tibetan revolutionary party

                  If they were popular, they wouldn’t have needed China to invade. China was supporting them just like the US supported revolutionaries that overthrew their governments.

                  There were no popular pro-US movements fighting Saddam’s rule

                  The Kurds.

                  This was purely a strategic invasion to set up military bases and secure oil and resources by making up false claims of WMDs.

                  Their are no us military bases in Iraq and all the oil money goes to Iraq.

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              So are you saying that China didn’t abduct a child in an attempt to exterminate Tibetan culture? Surely there is no way to defend such things and this should be a very easy thing to condemn?

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          and I saw some very pro Putin shit in places like chapotraphouse,even people for the genocide of ukraine

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            I do wonder how much of that is Russian psyop. I feel like the whole chapotraphouse thing was started or at least very influenced by bad actors and propaganda bots. That place was a shitshow, for sure.

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              Probably none of it, but knowing how Russia is that wouldn’t surprise me. That’s just how tankies are, no need for russian intervention. They’re just as bad as Nazis for “that genocide didn’t happen, but if it did they deserved it” type shit

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          “I found literally one comment that doesn’t support Putin so clearly the tankie instance doesn’t support him!”

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              I would tell you to go to hell for being on hexbear, but apparently you haven’t been on there enough to see how pro-russia and pro-Putin tankies tend to be

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                  Hey look literally your most recent comment is pushing the “meat grinder” narrative that Zelensky is evil for sending innocent people to die in “his” war of aggression xD

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                  r/genzedong and I think a couple other tankie subreddits literally got taken down for spreading pro-russia disinformation https://time.com/6160519/reddit-international-hate-speech-ban/ . I’ve seen a bunch of shit from them and from hexbear and grad about how Putin is based for denazifying Ukraine and shit, but no number of actual examples of that I could link would change your mind bc putin’s boot just tastes too nice to you, so why would I even bother subjecting myself to cunts like you calling for Ukrainian and Jewish genocide?