except phones are big again because we noticed we can watch porn on them
The Chevy Suburban is about the same weight now as in 1973 (5837lbs then, 5785-5993lbs now, according to Wikipedia).
It was huge then, it’s huge now.
The BMWs pictured are not the same class of car either — one is a coupe/sedan, one’s an SUV, so of course they will be radically different.
Don’t get m wrong, I think modern cars are too big and, in the case of BMW, way uglier than they used to be.
Here’s a link if you want to include in your comment.
It’s a site that compares car sizes. This link is for the 3 series
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-3-1997-sedan-vs-bmw-3-2018-sedan/
And here’s a dodge challenger which surprisingly is fatter but slightly shorter and higher
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/dodge-challenger-1969-coupe-vs-dodge-challenger-2015-coupe/
That’s not an average representation of the increase in the size of pickup trucks, though.
Just look at the Ford F150:
Even if you compare like with like, pickups are around 30% heavier than they were in the 90s, and around 10-15% taller.
https://www.axios.com/2023/01/23/pickup-trucks-f150-size-weight-safety
That’s comparing a regular can with a crew cab.
They didn’t have crew cabs back then, which is kinda the point.
Edit: correction - they did, but it wasn’t until the mid-2000s that they became common.
Exactly. This pic is comparing apples with oranges to get a rise out of us. There are irrefutable arguments for saving the planet, we don’t need this low IQ rage bait.
People would find some way to complain no matter what cars were chosen for the comparison, but the fact is cars have been getting bigger on average.
@mondoman712 @Jilanico This is ironically due to the emissions rules. Bigger vehicles are classed as commercial and allowed to burn more gas and pollute more.
My dad has a 1999 Chevy S-10 with a small cab, a 4-cylinder engine, and a long bed. Nothing like that is made today. Handy when you need to move stuff though.
So have mobile phones.
👍 Well done. But we were talking about the cars in the picture.
There are mobile phones in the picture too.
👏 Good job. Can you tell me what else is in the picture?
Sedans were the default back in the 80s, now SUVs and pickups account for around 75% of all new sales (in the US, at least).
So, in terms of what the average car looked like then versus now, it’s a perfectly valid comparison.
For those who are actually curious, this is because of the Light Truck Exemption in the US. long story short, the us made emissions requirements on cars. Car companies said “fine well do cars, but we can’t do it for trucks”. At the time, trucks were only used for, you know, actual truck things, so they made the Light Truck Exemption.
So of course car companies created the SUV, popularized it, and made it the standard. Now, so interestingly, everything is a light truck! Even most sedans are. Who would have guessed car companies found a way out of emissions standards yet again.
Great not just bikes video that goes more in depth: https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=y38n9OQz8gC5RLBq
I don’t think that’s related. It’s more about why america loves pickups so much while the rest of the world doesn’t. But the SUV epidemic is actually global.
The weird thing is that it even rubs of to the rest of the world, cars are getting bigger and higher in Europe, without the tax dodge, or even the contrary. Where I live cars are taxed by weight and even here the fuckers get bigger…
Who gives a shit about cars, give me my buttload of ports back!
Get framework. It has 6 type-c ports, each of which you can breakout into something like 10 ports with usb hubs.
You don’t know what I’d do to get massive chunky brick laptops back from the 90’s again. Look at all those ports!
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It’s bigger. Does that mean it burns more fuel or has more emissions than a 40 year old car? I’m all for saving the planet, but I’m not sure big automatically means worse. I could be wrong.
They are still gonna be less effecient than smaller, lighter models with modern technology.
Another factor is bigger vehicles are deadlier.
They are still gonna be less effecient than smaller, lighter models with modern technology.
Agreed and I’m sure bmw makes smaller models, so this pic is rage bait.
Another factor is bigger vehicles are deadlier.
Deadlier for whom? My guess is the passengers of a bigger vehicle are safer. A pedestrian being hit by a small car or big car is likely ruined either way. An SUV hitting a small car, maybe the small car’s passengers are in trouble, though perhaps advancements in safety have increased survival, idk.
Deadlier for whom?
The people the driver of the bigger car cannot see.
And also people in a smaller vehicle involved in a collision. Higher bumper heights hit windows instead of crumple zones.
A pedestrian being hit by a small car or big car is likely ruined either way.
Vehicle size actually has a huge effect on the severity of vehicle-pedestrian collisions.
I find that full-size SUVs and pickup trucks pose a particular danger for pedestrians. A pedestrian hit by a full-size SUV is twice as likely to die than a pedestrian hit by a car under similar circumstances, while being hit by a pickup truck rather than a car increases the death probability by 68%. I find that high-front-end vehicle designs are particularly culpable for the higher pedestrian death rate attributable to large vehicles. A 10 cm increase in the front-end height of a vehicle increases the risk of pedestrian death by 22%.
I stand corrected. Appreciate the data. Thanks for educating me on that! 👍
the 1984 BMW 318i gets 24 mpg the 2024 BMW x7 gets 24 mpg
Size isn’t everything. While I get what they’re trying to say, the ‘light utility vehicles’ of today are getting 20-30 mpg while the sedan of 40 years ago got like… 5. Fuck cars and all, but this isn’t really a good angle.
