Obligatory what the fuck is wrong with how the US pays service people.
Tipping is for special appreciation, not basic sustenance.
We live in hell, that’s what.
The US made it legal to pay tipped employees basically no wage (like pennies an hour). Tipping is stupid but if you don’t do it the employee is basically unpaid.
I’d split the difference by just paying them based on my estimation of the time and effort they spent. The cost of the thing I bought should have no bearing. This notion that the tip should be 15/18/20% or whatever of your final bill is idiotic.
This case is not US specific. In Germany delivery drivers usually get tipped too.
Was this before or after the delivery app rent seekers set up shop around the world?
I like how all stores even the shady ones like dollar general now want you to give money to some ‘charity’ at check out. Like I’m going to help them with some tax dodging scam they are running. I no longer tip anywhere I go. I don’t go to the places that force a tip on you.
I used to think this way until someone on lemmy told me it wasn’t the case. Those donations are nontaxable - it goes directly to those charities.
And you don’t get the tax receipt for them
$29.75
10% - Move the decimal. $2.975
Round up - $3.00
Half that for 5% - $1.50
15% - $4.50
Double for 20% - $6.00Or get rid of tipping.
That’s a completely separate situation.
Yes, tipping culture is out of control and needs to be abolished. But screwing over the wait staff or delivery driver currently providing you service will never have any impact on the big wigs that made the decision to play them less than minimum wage.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Pay reasonable tips for reasonable service people paid under minimum wage. Also work with your local politicians to eliminate tipping. Do not withold tips from people working under minimum wage unless you just want to be part of the boot stepping on them.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Because, for the people who refuse to “get it,” it isn’t actually about exploitation or whatever other lip service they give to make themselves seem magnanimous for not tipping, it’s about the fact that they don’t want to give the delivery driver a penny and have to lie to you and themselves so they think they’re good people. They’re not, though. If they were they’d see it like you do, they’re just selfish and deep down they know it so they concoct their lies to defer blame from their conscience.
Or perhaps I avoid services that expect tips.
No, if you do that you get it.
“Don’t give the place your money” is good,
“give the place the money but not the staff member” is bad.
If you avoid those places what I said doesn’t apply to you, you’re already doing the thing I said is better.
why is the customer made the butt of the joke here?
Because they took forever to add a $1 tip to the total (as they indicate by saying it takes them a while to do the math)
To add to that they gave a low ass tip
Right? If it’s grubhub or Ubereats I wouldn’t pick that customer again
It should be the company’s responsibility to pay you properly, not the customer’s
Yes, but until such time that is happening, you are also an asshole for not tipping where people are being paid under minimum wage.
Amazingly, both of these concepts can be true simultaneously!
You not tipping the service worker will never have any impact on the company’s decision to be assholes and pay less than minimum wage.
Working with local politicians and boycotting said companies might. But most people in the US complaining about this shit want to have their cake and eat it too.
The employee shouldn’t shift blame onto the customer though. Like if the customer decides not to give you a big tip, don’t get mad at the customer. Get mad at your own employer for not paying you a living wage and expecting customers to just volunteer more money regardless of their financial situation.
regardless of their financial situation
I’m too broke to order for delivery and tip and all that. Do you know what I do? I pick up, or cook at home. I don’t engage with the service that would expect me to tip, because if I’m too poor to spend $5 on not being a huge cunt I’m too poor to spend $20 on a pizza, I’m gonna cook a damn $5 Red Baron, or $7 worth of pasta and sauce for the next two days.
If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford the menu price either. Source: I can’t afford the tip, and while I may have the menu price on me rn I truly need to save it because there’ll be something I need it more for later than momentary endorphins released by melted cheese.
Tips are bullshit anyway.
And that’s the delivery driver’s fault how, exactly?
That’s the customer’s fault how exactly?
The customer initiated the transaction under the conditions that currently exist.
